Subnormal floating-point numbers cause performance overhead; developers need an automatic handling solution
Problem
On Intel processors, subnormal floating-point numbers significantly increase latency, especially in real-time scenarios such as DSP. Developers want to avoid these numbers but lack easy-to-use tools or clear configuration options to detect and handle them.
Pain points
- Subnormal numbers leading to increased runtime latency in DSP code
- Lack of automatic detection and handling tools for subnormal numbers
- Developers are unfamiliar with the concept of subnormal numbers
Questions to verify
- Does your project frequently encounter performance issues caused by subnormal numbers?
- Would you be willing to use flush-to-zero or the compiler option -mdaz-ftz to mitigate this overhead?
- Do you have a basic understanding of subnormal numbers?
Evidence
quote · sourcecomment1
It used to be quite normal to add a low level random signal to inputs when writing DSP code so as to avoid dropping into subnormal territory. Careful analysis of the algorithm would identify any points where this was also necessary (e.g. feedback paths when running delays). Obviously those lucky/unlucky enough to be writing 56k fixed precision code wouldn't have this concern, but other ones instead :)I think flush to zero is probably the preferred strategy these days.
quote · sourcecomment2
If you don't _need_ subnormals MXCSR.DAZ/FTZ (which you can get gcc to set via -mdaz-ftz) will let you ignore all of this.
quote · sourcecomment5
I'm still trying to understand what a subnormal number is; IE, I'm looking for the TLDR so I know just enough to know if I'm using them and need to learn more.Unfortunately, the Wikipedia article, while probably being accurate, doesn't give a clear and concise answer.IE, is 0.0001 a subnormal? Or is it 0.000000000000000000001?
fact
Subnormal floating-point numbers are expensive on Intel processors
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